I think the article was very interesting. It’s cool the way he compares himself to his son’s life & that way he knew some of the changes that his son was going through. Something new we learned was that race isn’t important concerning education because everybody is smart in their own way & everyone has certain strengths. Nobody learns the same way & it’s important to believe in yourself rather than your peers. We found this article to be credible because it happens everyday in our society & schools. Kids don’t think they’re smart enough if they aren’t in honors & automatically asume they can’t achieve.
In Pedro Noguera’s article How Racial Identity Affects School performance ,
my partner and I found that friends of a certain race would affect your school performance both in the classroom and outside to be interesting. We learned that it is true that the school students tend to self-segregate amongst themselves at lunch and form their own “cliques”. We find his information to be creditable because of his valid reasoning and use of something we can relate to. We feel we can relate to this and learn from it because of the fact that it is kind of true that we self-segregate and we should stop.
In response to the article written by Noguera, I found it to be really interesting. With an experience like his, I could really relate to what his son was going through in his years of adolesnce. I too was going through an identity shift; I started off studious and gentle, switched to negativity and my grades began to lower, when I finally received a wake up call, I returned back to my old ways. I understood what perspective his son was coming from. The article really touched me in a spot that hasn’t been touched in a while, it reminded me of my own past, and where I plan to go in the future.
what we found interesting is how the author argues that the race you are affects the way you learn. WE learned that people of color have a hard time completing highschool. We agree that this article is credible because it happens here at tennyson too.
We found the article interesting because it shows how people in school have their own cliques and self-segregate themselves in high school. We learned that students often draw conslusions about the relationship between race and academic ability based on what they see in the classroom. We think this article is credible, because we see certain people hang out with people of their own race which confirms his opinion.
What we found interesting was that he was ashamed of his cultural background and was not pleased with it. His educational opportunity was looked passed by his own self while he was young but as he grew older he became fond of it and apprecited his knowledge. We felt disapointed that he wasnt proud of his culture who he was as a person. Also the fact that he let other peoples judgement place him in a catorgory that didnt measure up with his own crediblity.
DAN HO:
This article was actually more interesting than the rest of the articles we have read this school year. Because it related to us teenagers going through high school situations. Race does affect students academically sometimes, but not all the time. Some students will choose their future over being cool and popular and others would choose to throw away their future for that. It just all depends the person.
ASHLEY J.:
I can see what was happening to that teenager, he was affected by his friends who had all dropped out of school, but it’s good for him he realized wrong from right and went back to his regular self.
What we found interesting was that he was ashamed of his cultural background and was not pleased with it. His educational opportunity was looked passed by his own self while he was young but as he grew older he became fond of it and apprecited his knowledge. We felt disapointed that he wasnt proud of his culture who he was as a person. Also the fact that he let other peoples judgement place him in a catorgory that didnt measure up with his own crediblity…
What we found interesting about the article was that his observations about teens are true. We also thought it was interesting how he chose to share his personal experiences. We learned that eventhough the races are mixed in the future it will still continue to shape our way of living. We also learned that teachers expect certain effort based on a students race. We both agree that Noguera’s article is credible.
Some things I found interesting about the article facts including how race is what forms the cliques we see at lunch on the school yard. I never really noticed that before and it is so true. I learned about ways teachers can mix these teenagers racially by making randon seating charts, interracial groups when group work is assigned, and teaching about different cultural backgrounds. I find his article very credible due to the fact that I experience it everyday. At school everyone is surrounded by the people they feel more comfortable with, and that usualy means with people of your own race because that’s who you’ve been around your whole life.
What we found intereting about the article was that people actually self-segregate themselves from other races and cultures. Even though this country is diverse, people still can’t cross racial boundaries. We realized that students currently don’t care about education, as much as before. Acting “cool” has become the norm for most school societies instead of advancing their education. We do agree that this article has some credibility to it but it does have some exceptions. For example, he has the experience as being a professor and parent. This articles credibility relies on the support of two scholars, John Ogbu and Signithia Fordham and his own experience with his son. Overall, we thought this article had little relevance to us because we observe self-segregation daily and we hang out with other people anyways. ^.^
1) Really i found very litle stuff intresting that were writen in this article because to tell the truth everybody goes through this kinds of changes it is nothing akward. The only thing that you have to learn is how to get back to your old self or accept who you want to be. 2)That racially diversed schools see raceism more than not racially diversed schools .3)In my opinion this article is something that many students can relate on it because what his son went through is the same thing that almost everychild goes through. Everybody want to be accepted and many time they dont see the change that they go through untill someone helps them out like jouquins dad.
We believe that Noguera’s article is true and it realates alot to the way teenagers are in real life like when they enter high school for the first years, acting up,not caring about their schoolwork. Different nationalities stay together and don’t mix with other nationalities, while educators on the other hand, try to mix different cultures in the classroom also making them feel inferior with each other.
We both agree that the article isn’t as credile to audiences, it seems to be more stereotypical against black people and the way people should see them as. “The image of a tough and angry young Black man” or saying they can’t be “too nice,gentle,kind or sincere, meant that he would be vulnerable and preyed upon” meaning that his so-called friends wouldn’t lie him for that.
we think its intresting how people develop theories about how students interract at school, and how races react to eachother at school. It’s very intresting to find that people in high school value their educations differently. For example how friends influence how much a student really cares about their education. The opinions of friends are valued more than those of the parents of teachers, only because they’re trying to fit in. In high school it seems that in order to fit in some have to stoop down to a different level, only to be sociably accepted even if they were raised to put their education ahead of everything. All of the facts stated in the article are very true, whether students accept it or not. Because i know some people don’t like hearring the truth. What’s even more intresting is the split personalities that people develop, because i know alot of people who have them, they act one way with one crowd and another with other people. But i just think it’s like 9th and 10th grade dumbness of trying to create who you are as a person, and knowing what you identify yourself with. Because when you hit your Jr. year and Senior year, you grow up and change your views and morals on certain issues and really start to develop your own voice.
what’s interesting to me about this article is that the author Noguera talks about his personal experience in the beginning about what his son and what he was going through at school. He made a personal life connection in his article that appealed to me and caught my interest. I learned that if you want success and your a minority race you have to be assimulated to white culture and come equate with “acting white”. I find Noguera’s article trustworthy because i noticed that when someone black for instance talk educated or simply have a broaden vocabulary their peers call them white washed. Just because that person has the knowledge they are consider white as if only whites can use big words or as if whites are the only educated race.
what we found interesting was no matter how close or how far schools may be from each other, you can always find common grounds, meaning the same situations happen at Tennyson. Some people are easily influence by their surroundings and their peers. They find themselfs hanging out with the wrong peoplewhich lead them into bad situations. Even though, a child has two caring and supportive parents doesn’t always mean they’ll stay out of trouble in school; it’s a sence of idenity that has to be secure within ones own self.
Dulce:
1)What was interesting about the article was that awareness of race usually occurs during early childhood.
2)something new I learned is that if you are dark, you are most likely to be punished, suspended and expelled!
3)I do believe he is trustworthy because he, as a black teenager in a public school, experienced on his own account the correlation between race and education and has deep and complex ideas about this topic.
Cynthia Mu.:
1.What is interesting about the article is the trouble his son went in high school. I feel a could relate because I know people that I care about that either went through that or are going throught that. I’m glad that Noguera’s son recover and went back to his studies.
2.Information that I did not know was that the darker someone is the more likely they are to be punished or suspended. That is a cruel assumption. Everything that Noguera said in his article I already knew something about it.
3.I find some of his information trustworthy but not all of it. I disagree on some of his ideas but we all think differently.
we thought the article gave lots of information on the phycological perspective of the effects of adolescence and peer pressure. he showed how some sutdents think of themselves and how others think of others and how the educational system fails to support all backgrounds and lifestyles.
In the article about Racial Identity and Academic Proformance, we think that racial profiling is a major issue in schools dealing with every student. Everyone at school is profiled at least a couple times and the sterotypes that other students bring with that, brings their self-esteem/confidence down. I learned that people consider the whites as more educated than blacks, but blacks are just as smart as whites, it’s just that blacks are more known to mess up and not care, but in the article, majority of the black community said that they want to do better in school. If they were given as much attention and worked with well, in a more diverse classroom, with teachers there to help and have teacher mix up groups to create a very mixed group. We find Noguera’s article to be very trustworthy/crediable. In our society today, people are still racial profiling, sterotyping, and students academic proformanced is affected by their peers.
We thought that it was some what true because students do separte themselves away from other races. Students not only believe that they aren’t able to do good in school, their peers also discourage them too. That is why the article is right and when it says that teacher should encourage students to take more advanged classes.
I did like this article cause we go through this all the time. The tone sounds to me like he just wants to fit in. I do agree that people should hang out wih other people. Racism is not a good thimg in this world we should try to improve in how speak and on how we act in front of people.
After reading this article, I was interested in how race is a huge issue in today’s society and how it affects people and thier performance in and outside of school. I learned that alot of people go through stages in life simular to Joaquin’s during adolecence where they feel trapped by strereotypes. I think that it is true. In fact I think we go through it everyday !
This article “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance” by Pedro A. Noguera is interesting because it states how some students judge themselves and other people by race. By reading this we realized that sometimes we do this too, we hang out with people from our race and sometimes judge other people by the way they look. We sometimes even judge who we are, for example with school when a certain friend gets an advanced class we make fun of that person and we tell them that they are nerds or too smart. We do find his opinion credible because its true that some people do act by their stereotypes, for example the “gangsters” act bad and they dont do their work because it makes them think that they are too cool for school. Sometimes people do certain things because they think that thats what a person of the same race would do.
what is interesting about the article is that the father who is very well educated decides not let himself and his son drift apart from eack because of his son’s angry state.The new information that me and my partner got from this is that racial identity affects school performance in a way that minorities are seen as being dumb so that stereotype pulls them down to that level.I think this article is credible it shows us in words what is going on in schools.
I thought i was interesting how he stop doing good in school just to be a cool guy his friends. I thought his opinion was trustworthy, because a lot a kids do this kinds of things, they stop doing good in school just to be accepted by others. The way i feel about this article is that it’s a very understanding, because a lot of wat i read in this article is very true with the people in school today.
WHAt WAS iNTERESTiNG ABOUt THiS ARTiCLE iS THAt HE TRiED ALOt TO FiT iN HE WAS UNCOMTHERBAl WiTH HiS SKiN COLOR,WHiCH i THOUGHT WAS iNTERESTiNG, i NEVER THOUGHT SOMEBODy WOULD THiNK THAt BEiNG SMARTER WOULD ONLy BE iF YOU WERE WHiTE? THAt WAS NEW iNFORMATiON FOR ME i HAD NEVER HEARD THAt. YES iT iS TRUSt WORTHy i THiNk THEREz ALOT OF PEOPLE THAt WOULd HAve A LOt iN COMMON WiTH HiM BECAUSE THERES A LOt OF PEOPLE THAT ARE UNCOMTHERBAl WiTh THEiR SkiN COLOR..
What i found interesting in the book is how jouaquin was doing really bad in school and then he finally realized that he was doing bad and that his behavior was bad. I also think that his bad behaivior had to do with racism.He probably thought since he was a black student he wasnt as good as the other stundents. I think that maybe he felt that he needed to be better he maybe felt like he needed to fit in with others. I also think that racism is one of the reasons why a lot of young teens and adults feel like maybe they are not good enough or can be equal like other,like in joaquins place. Friends and parents could also influence the way you think or the way you should feel about your self. Sometimes friends can be bad influence on eachother. Even if you know its wrong you sometimes still do it just so that you can feel cool or to fit in. Parents sometimes expect a lot from their kids and that is why sometimes it can also affect the way their kids behave beacuse they think and/or feel like they cant be or do what their parents want them to be. Parents also can influence they way their kids think about people from diffrent races/colors.
We thought the the article was some what true. Students seem to hang out with people their own race, instead of interacting with others b/c they relate more people of the same race. We believe that parents have alot to do with the way students interact with others and learn. Parents are still living in the “old days”. Stereotypes have alot to do with how a student behaves in school because they’re already being judge by race, that they dont even fight whats being said.
Hanging out with the wrong people does affect their academic performance. For example if a good student starts hanginog out with “slackers”, he will start doing what they do to fit in, which means ditchin class, and eventualy it reflects on their grades. So in conclusion stereotypes do affect a students academic performance.
We believe that his article is true because as teenagers we get influenced easily by others. Like the article said we use, ” multiple identities” to fit in cliques. some people choose to not do good in school to look cool and find themselves in a bad situation. The people you hang out with influence you in who ” you really are”. For example if your bestfriend is not into school they influence you by loosing interest in your own school work. In the article also explains that that “adolecents” tends to not be friends with other races because by that age we seem to know all the stereotypes and are also influence by them.Also, teens become to “self segregate” between eachother because they become more concerned on how they will look in front of their peers.
The article “How Racial Identity Affects” was interesting and as i was reading i discover that some of the problems that bring up apply to myself and to some other family members. We also found out the article credible because the author uses his own experiences and back up his thoughs with reliable people like “Erik Erikson and other theorists of child development” By using both sources, his experiences plus people who knows about this problem better than anyone else,the author makes his story trusthworthy.
What we also think was intresting is that beacuse of the way your skin tone is, people break up into groups. They kick it with their own race and nobody else. Because of that you are labled as what ever your friends are. I think that because of peers some students lose focus on way there at school. so being cool with your friends is more important, than getting good grades. we learned that some teachers want to change that but most dont really care about how students do in thier class. we think that most of what the article says is true . most people get bad grades because thier friends get bad grades.
One of the things I found intruiging in this article was the story of Joaquin and how he wanted to relate to his African-American peers. Another facinating point was how people of the same race always seem to form cliques and how some even begin to “act White” in order to succeed in school and in life. I believe that this article is very trustworthy because I know it is true.
The article “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance” by Pedro A. Noguera was interesting because it shows a first hand experience to how the race of a child affected how he did in school and his son. I now found out that kids in mixed race schools learn about race faster than kids in homogenus settings. I believe that Noguera is a pretty credible source because he experienced it firsthand.
We thought this article was really amazing. We liked the way he compared his life to his son’s life. Also because it talked about how individuals act differently around different people. In real life people do really act this way. He connected it to the real life situations basically. We learned that no matter what school it is all schools have this problem. We do believe that it is credible because we have seen these situations before.
In the article “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance,” what was interesting is how Pedro A. Noguera compares his childhood difficulties to those that exist today. Andrea and I learned that racial identity affects people’s perspectives of others. Also, Noguera’s opinion is credible because he uses personal anecdotes that support his argument.
What we found most intriguing about the article is that it is true and mostly happens in common life. Different racial groups and customs of them change the way a person thinks and feels. No matter how hard you may try to be ‘yourself’ you are influenced to follow a group. We have learned that there is a strong connection between races and the way they perform in school throughout many socities. Also, the teachers have to make sure that where students sit is important because it differs their thoughts between racial values. This article appears to be credible because it has a truthful meaning in it. Plus, the author cites sources for some of the information he uses making it more of a reliable source.
What I found most “SEDUCTIVE” about this article is that the author who wrote this article had a first hand experience in the “influence of race” with someone who he would never have expected to be pushed around by it: his son. His son was supported by both he and his wife and had a positive attitude up until the “dark period” so the author was extremely surprised and perplexed on how it had happened and what caused it. This is something that many parents can relate to.
What we’ve learned from this article is that there are many different kinds of sterotypes in the world and we ourselves have to find a way to break out of these sterotypes that categorize ourselves and form a new definition for our identity. Also, that many statistics prove that through this age of our adolecence we tend to go into the idea that our race defines what our limits are when it comes to our education, which can be either the highest point or the exact opposite.
We find this article to be credible because he uses his own personal perspective that many can relate to. Many teens today would try to deny that these assumptions are false, but when actually looking at the situation, they turn out to be true, especially in his point of view.
We think the article is a very realistic story. Its sad to see a father struggle
and suffer bc hs son doen’t understand his family’s roots, or is persuaded to think his fmaily’s roots are “bad”, or destined to be “bad”.
Even though we all wish it wouldnt, race will always play a part in the schoolastic performance. He knows it, but just like Jorge and I, we hope people start freeing themselvess from persuasions and start thinking for themselves :]
I agree with the article because you do actually see in school how racial groups are seperate. Normally the latinos hang out with the latinos, asians with asians, and black people and its not often when you see other races interacting with each other. I liked how Pedro A. Noguera connected his life as an adolesence with what his son was going trough in his adolescence.
It’s intrestng the the article is written from a parerent perspective and like a teenager’s perspective at the same time, more that the parent has accuretly become aware of what is going on with his kid. It’s amazed that Pedro A. Noguera came to the point and conclusion that the reason why some students of non whiteness don’t do as well in school as they can is not because of their inablility to learn but rather because up to today they reject white society as some of their ancesters have. For example i do well in school but still reject many of these traditional “Americanized” things. In fact I still consider many mexican notheren lands mexican territory. You can’t blame a student for refusing when freedom of choice is what they want, not a forced decision to go to school. I’m thinking that maybe it’s not that only the darker students get into more trouble than lighter students and get suspended but that it gets noticed more because racism still hasn’t completely dissolved; It’s always a possiblity. I see that parently have a very open view and good memory of their own childhood, that they know more about the tough life of adolency more than it seems. Parents aren’t blind, they can see what’s going on with their child and thanks to that article I see this now. It has made me to come to new concusions on which I mentioned above in what i found interesting. I learned that I might not be the only one going through these different stages, or obligated to have differnnt identities in the eyes of different people for certain unknown reason. I do find all this information credible and trustworthy becuase not only does it site the plces n which Noguera found the information but also because I found most of the article’s statemenst and opinions to be true or well thought out as to come to a conclusion.
The article “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance” illustates a young person facing identity issues in a predominantly African-American community. I didn’t realize that children became interested in skin color at a young age. Children at a racially diverse school become more aware of racial issues than a homogeneous school. I find his opinion credible because i have seen this problem occur in different schools. People should stop segregating and sterotyping themselves.
The article “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance,” is very legit in every aspect. Not only can we clearly understand his points that he makes, but he gives a real example of him and his son. We see similiar situations of these examples in our everyday life. He goes on to how your race of people can lead you away from individuality, when you start becoming more accustomed with them. We learned that through our life process, it is common for most of us to go through this phase, but there are ways to quickly overcome it or even avoid it all together. We find his opinions credible only to an extent, for we believe that students with more knowledge in the area of sociology know how to overcome or avoid these sort of situations.
I was very intrigued by Pedro Noguera’s article, “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance”, because I could relate to it. I was surprised how much I was similar to him in his adolescent years. What I learned from Noguera’s article is that schools throughout the nation are characterized by increasing racial segregation. Finally, I think Noguera’s article is trustworthy because he has sources stating where he got his information.
What astonished us about the article “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance” is the opening. Noguera not only relates to a problem that is alive today in society but he endures it personally. He sets forth his son as an exmaple for race issues and learning environments. This way, Noguera creates a mood of credability since his experience gives him a view on the issue of racial identity. We found the article to be insightful as well as convincing. It’s amazing how not all children are aware of the significance of racial difference. Awareness would bring unity and acceptance as well as respect in the teenage grounds.
My partner and I felt that Noguera’s article was true, but it was one of those unspoken truths, kind of like the elephant in the room. Your race and culture are part of you, so they obviously affect how you perform in everyday life, including school. They also affect how others perceive you and sometimes their assumptions bring you down, but other times it can motivate you to become someone better. Unfortunately, others go along with their own stereotypes; even though they could amount to something better, they quit trying because of the stereotype, and sometimes even end up making stereotypes for themselves and their race. We see this a lot in school, from almost everyone. Noguera also proved this in his anecdote based on his and his son’s experiences.
The past experiences helps us in the future. Everything that happens to us, happens for a reason.what intrigued me most is that the kids parents were extremely supportive and positive. They never gave up. When Noguera compares his past life situation to that of his son he is, in his article or eassay, implying that he knows and understands what his son is going through. His detailed examples about stereotypes are true. Society, especially teenagers are greatly influenced by peers and their surroundings. They might not notice that they are being led to a different path for they are young and inexperienced. i found the father’s opinion credible. One can relate at some point in life. Not specifically the same situation but in a different way.
In this article “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance”
Hoang Tran : I think that race is just another way how people identify themselves. In this article it helped me show why teachers move their students around with students of different races together. It is because she wants to diversify the class and to help all the race to get along. I dont think race is a big issue in school because some race show that they are more supeior then others. I myself dont believe that a race would be smarter, stronger, or better then other ethnicity/race. I hope that we would put aside our differences and not label others through race. Because when your young you do not judge your friends or strangers through race, but through how they act or dress. As we grow up we start to change and judge people on their skin color or race, which isnt a way to live.
Cedrick T. :
i can see wut mr.noguera is tryin 2 say and i can somewhat agree with him
on his views on how racial identity affects school performance. What i dont agree on is him saying how people of a certain race hanging out with each other because their comfortable with each other. From my experience, I see some people hanging out with the same race because they have the same interests but many just hang out with whoever they feel comfortable with despite the color of their skin. I can somewhat agree with Noguera when he talks about how talking down to someone because of their race affects their school performance because of their character and vulnerabilty. it makes sense on what he says but i havent experienced that feeling since middle school and right now i dont care what people say to me because it doesn’t affect me anymore.
It was pretty amusing when that one clown tired to eat the piggy lolz jk (i noe random xP) We couldn’t sympathize with the article because Tennyson is a very diverse school. It was weird to read about clicks and all that because we don’t really see that in this school though we do awknowlegde that this is a problem is other parts of the country were one major race dominates. For example the steroetype threats are a real problem that should be dealt with because it affects many teenagers academicly and they are not successful later in life because they gave in to the stereotype “blackmail” from their peers. It’s an intriguing article that should be taken more in depth. =]
The article “How Racial Identity Affects” discusses how the majority of the minorities in the United States public schools are looked down upon or “stereotyped” not only by the American mainstream society but also by the other peers that surround them at school. Many times, adolescents in high school are influenced very easily,that’s why many get caught up in bad situations to revcieve the respect they want or to feel cool so they wouldn’t be stereotyped or dominated. When minority teenagers are tangled up in this,the negativity they are involved in affects their school performance and at home as well. Pedro Noguera also acknowledges how our racial identity begins to develop at an early age as we start to grow and during our teen years, that’s when little by little we get to see who we are inside and out.
What I find interesting about “How Racial Identity Affects School Performance” is how Noguera presents a conflict within students, mainly teenagers, that is always present. He illustrates this by describing both hhis experience as a boy, and the experience later shared by his son. This is exactly what I learned from this article; that no matter what year it is or how much times change, the pressure of fitting the definition of what others expect you to be will always remain. His argument is credible because of his use of personal experiences, since what others thought not only affected him, but his son as well.
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